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	<title>Comments on: Comments, community, conversation, coverage and context.</title>
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	<description>Time to stop breaking the news, and start fixing it.*</description>
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		<title>By: Horshoutt</title>
		<link>http://www.newsless.org/2008/11/comments-community-conversation-coverage-and-context/comment-page-1/#comment-984</link>
		<dc:creator>Horshoutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 12:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael Josefowicz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Josefowicz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are really on to something.  
 
This site is my favorite example on the web as a discussion place that nurtures a conversation that creates new thoughts.  From a technical point of view, intense debate seems like great tech.  The harder problem is the human factor.  This site has a clear agenda. It attracts people who share that agenda.  As far as I can see, it&#039;s purpose was not to attract a gezillion users. It&#039;s purpose is to be a place for collaborative thinking. 
 
A newspaper might host a discussion on local economic development. Make sure that at least two pros were incented to participate. They would set the tone.  No need to moderate comments.  The norms of communication would quickly and naturally evolve. My take is that the most appropriate mind set for a newspaper company is to have a teacher-type manage the discussion. Teacher in the sense of team leader - not in the sense of &quot;talk and chalk.&quot; 
 
The skills and attitudes needed to nurture a good on line discussion are exactly those of the great teacher.  The culture shift is that journalism has rarely lived up to the &quot;inform, educate&quot; part.  For very good commercial reasons, it&#039;s about &quot;amuse&quot; or amaze. 
 
And of course, my plug for Print. Consider the effects on the conversation, if everyone knew coming in that edited comments, with or without names (user&#039;s choice) would be published once a week in an &quot;Discusssions on the web&quot; section of the paper. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are really on to something.  </p>
<p>This site is my favorite example on the web as a discussion place that nurtures a conversation that creates new thoughts.  From a technical point of view, intense debate seems like great tech.  The harder problem is the human factor.  This site has a clear agenda. It attracts people who share that agenda.  As far as I can see, it&#039;s purpose was not to attract a gezillion users. It&#039;s purpose is to be a place for collaborative thinking. </p>
<p>A newspaper might host a discussion on local economic development. Make sure that at least two pros were incented to participate. They would set the tone.  No need to moderate comments.  The norms of communication would quickly and naturally evolve. My take is that the most appropriate mind set for a newspaper company is to have a teacher-type manage the discussion. Teacher in the sense of team leader &#8211; not in the sense of &quot;talk and chalk.&quot; </p>
<p>The skills and attitudes needed to nurture a good on line discussion are exactly those of the great teacher.  The culture shift is that journalism has rarely lived up to the &quot;inform, educate&quot; part.  For very good commercial reasons, it&#039;s about &quot;amuse&quot; or amaze. </p>
<p>And of course, my plug for Print. Consider the effects on the conversation, if everyone knew coming in that edited comments, with or without names (user&#039;s choice) would be published once a week in an &quot;Discusssions on the web&quot; section of the paper.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Samuels</title>
		<link>http://www.newsless.org/2008/11/comments-community-conversation-coverage-and-context/comment-page-1/#comment-642</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Samuels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes finely, is CNN making the news, reporting the news.  I thik they create it.  Just like they are creating facebook and twitter.  CNN says facebook or twitter 3 to 4 time every 15 minutes.  Why not goofbucket, or squidoo, or even hubpages?  Media is commercial, so with that in mind is the news, news or a variant of selling sometime? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes finely, is CNN making the news, reporting the news.  I thik they create it.  Just like they are creating facebook and twitter.  CNN says facebook or twitter 3 to 4 time every 15 minutes.  Why not goofbucket, or squidoo, or even hubpages?  Media is commercial, so with that in mind is the news, news or a variant of selling sometime?</p>
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		<title>By: cpetersia</title>
		<link>http://www.newsless.org/2008/11/comments-community-conversation-coverage-and-context/comment-page-1/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>cpetersia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Newsmixer project described by Rich Gordon at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/idealab/2009/01/news-mixer-generates-widespread-interest005.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.pbs.org/idealab/2009/01/news-mixer-gen...&lt;/a&gt;would seem to offer help on several of these comment issues by not only avoiding anonymity, but also incorporating the community aspects of Facebook. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Newsmixer project described by Rich Gordon at <a href="http://www.pbs.org/idealab/2009/01/news-mixer-generates-widespread-interest005.html" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.pbs.org/idealab/2009/01/news-mixer-gen.." rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/idealab/2009/01/news-mixer-gen..</a>.would seem to offer help on several of these comment issues by not only avoiding anonymity, but also incorporating the community aspects of Facebook.</p>
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		<title>By: fix journalism &#187; The cult of the story</title>
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		<dc:creator>fix journalism &#187; The cult of the story</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 08:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mapping (as described in MediaShift, Take Control of Your Maps, Mastering Multimedia) Moderating (Comments and Conversation, Stack Overflow, NewsMixer) Crowdsourcing (Spot.Us, Networked) New forms of Storytelling (The [...]</description>
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		<title>By: In search of great questions at Newsless.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>In search of great questions at Newsless.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the sorts of brand-new functions tomorrow&#8217;s journalism is already starting to perform: like creating a place for communities to coalesce around the news and helping communities organize in the midst of a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ed Kohler</title>
		<link>http://www.newsless.org/2008/11/comments-community-conversation-coverage-and-context/comment-page-1/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Kohler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mainstream news sites have unintentionally done a great job building traffic at 3rd party sites where the adults advertisers want to reach are conversing about mainstream news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mainstream news sites have unintentionally done a great job building traffic at 3rd party sites where the adults advertisers want to reach are conversing about mainstream news.</p>
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